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Forum slowness?

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:17 pm
by Hagar Delest
The forum seems quite slower since rather recently. At first I thought it was my ISP but after a few days, I'm not so sure and there is a discussion on the dev mailing list about slow openoffice.org domain and I've talked about my observation with the forum.

Has anyone noticed a less responsive forum recently?

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:46 pm
by Villeroy
Server slowdown will be a wide spread problem in the near future: https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/foru ... ity-update

Disclaimer: I'm not saying that this particular slowdown has anthing to do with the slowdown on epicgames.com

I'm visiting this site with a Firefox browser that includes some patch against Meltdown/Spectre. Therefore I can not tell if my browser, a microdode patch for my CPU, the microcode on the server CPU or any circumstance on 7 network layers is responsible for this.

"Meltdown" is a well chosen name. We may have reached a point of complexity where we have to melt down our expectations regarding performance or reliability.

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:07 pm
by floris v
It loads fast enough for my tablet. I wasn't even aware that there's a problem.

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:09 pm
by RoryOF
Might any perceived server slowdown be due to the new server rebuilding its cache?

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:36 pm
by acknak
I've noticed some variable slowness over the last couple of days: sometimes it's noticeable, other times it's ok.

I hadn't made any connection with the recent vulnerability disclosure; I think the patches for those should have been deployed well before the announcement.
Villeroy wrote:We may have reached a point of complexity where we have to melt down our expectations regarding performance or reliability.
No kidding. I'm boggled at the complexity/subtlety of these vulnerabilities. They (or one at least) exploit not simple flaws in the design, but "side channels"—side effects of the design, that expose one bit at a time through the timing of the processor.

For a good technical-but-not-too-technical explanation, listen to Scott Manley, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7ILCoU9d4k

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:51 pm
by Hagar Delest
Well, will check at work tomorrow because after some work in the administration interface, there is definitively a problem.

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:27 am
by charlie.it
Hagar Delest wrote:Has anyone noticed a less responsive forum recently?
Yes, I confirm. It also happens in the Italian forum.

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:02 am
by Hagar Delest
Just checked at work and seems a little better but still page display lags a bit compared to last year.
Wait and see if something comes from the dev ML.

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:05 pm
by floris v
Just now, ironically, it took quite a while to load this page.

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:16 pm
by charlie.it
floris v wrote:Just now, ironically, it took quite a while to load this page.
I confirm, now it is slow to load.
Edit: and upload.

Re: Forum slowness?

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:36 pm
by RoryOF
Try a traceroute. It seems to me, from inspection of the server names on the traceroute, that my connection is going to London, Boston, Albany, Cleveland, ... Seattle. But I might be misreading the server abbreviations. Do I not remember that there was a mirror server in Germany, to which Europe was normally routed?

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