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				Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:27 pm
				by Gracie
				I repeatedly must open my one and only saved 
Impress document as a 
Copy in order to continue creating it, because I get a 
Document in Use Error.  However, the document in question is not open.
So I select the option to open a 
Copy,  Then I make my edits and 
Save As using a new name.  
One time, after editing, I did 
Save As and used the 
original (locked out) document name, but that made me uneasy.  OR is that what I should do... 
Save As the original name and allow it 
replace the "existing" document?  Actually, no, that can't be the solution because the next time I opened that same document, I got the 
Document in Use error anyway. 
 
Before I click 
Save As, I look in PROPERTIES / SECURITY to make 
sure that the READ-ONLY box is 
not checked.  But that makes no difference.
(I see this subject discussed in 2015, but I don't understand it.)
I'm using 4.1.4 in Windows 10.  
Thanks.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:49 pm
				by RoryOF
				With OpenOffice closed, start Taskmanager (Ctrl Shift Esc) and kill all soffice processes shown on TM';s Details tab (Processes tab on Windows before Win10)
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:24 pm
				by Gracie
				I see nothing in TM  Process tab showing "soffice".  Actually I checked all tabs and all entries.
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:27 pm
				by Gracie
				And I tried to re-open my presentation to go back to work...got the Doc In Use Error again.
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:38 pm
				by Gracie
				But I just found this in TM...see attached.
I'm going to END all three tasks and try opening my project again.
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:01 pm
				by RoryOF
				OK , that's good; they used be soffice processes on any Windows I have tried (not Win 10).  If you continue to get file in use errors or readonly errors you may also need to enable viewing of hidden and archive files; with OO closed, look in the directory in which your files are stored, and delete any .~lock files; these are files OO generates for internal housekeeping and can remain if OO is not closed properly, such as after a crash or an over-hasty closedown.  Note that these lock files are typically only a few hundred bytes in size, whereas the files that own t hem are much larger, at least 6 KB or more.
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:06 pm
				by Gracie
				in addition to your suggestion re deleting any .-lock files....should I close the three OpenOffice entries in TM/PROCESSES/BACKGROUND PROCESSES?  They are there again this a.m. without my having opened the APP yet.  (And, so far, I've not had any crash or over-hasty closedowns.  And certainly not every time I've used the app.  But it's worth a try to look and see what I find.) I'll have to open the app to see where the file is saved...I don't know that. 
And when I open the app, if it gives me the "in Use" error, I'll get you a screen grab so you can see the entire message.
Really appreciate your help.  I'll be back....
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:11 pm
				by RoryOF
				Yes, I think you should delete them.
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:56 pm
				by Gracie
				There are two attachments.  First one shows the -lock files -- three of them.  Next screen shot shows the Error message after TM was clean and -lock files were deleted.  My wild guess is that your Wizard is creating the -lock file when I try to open my working document.  But I don't know anything about these kinds of things.  So I need to go back to work on my project.
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:06 pm
				by RoryOF
				The lock files are there either because your file(s) are open, or because you are not shutting each file down correctly.  
In OpenOffice use /File /Close, or /File /Exit to close each file; if you must open a file again, perhaps because you have forgotten something, wait a few seconds before re-opening the file.  Also, when finished close OpenOffice (/File /Exit) and wait a few seconds for disk activity to cease before powering down your computer or closing the lid if it is a laptop.  It is also best not to allow the computer sleep or hibernate with an OpenOffice file open.
			 
			
					
				Re: Repeatedly get Document in Use Error, must open COPY
				Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:09 am
				by Bill
				Are the files open in another program? The icons that I see on .ppt files are not the same as the icons on the .ppt files in the screen shot