[Solved] Drop Cap won’t properly size

[CannedMan]

Example of output file and template

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I usually write from templates. For this specific one, I have an initial using EB Garamond Initial. In the template, it renders perfectly fine; in the output file, however, it is cut off for some reason, apparently being rendered as a three-line sized letter cut to the (desired) two-line height. What could cause this?

Sample file: Dummy document.odt
Sample template:

Dummy template.ott

Anonymised sample template

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[FJCC]

I don't see the F cut off in OpenOffice. Does this look right?

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[CannedMan]

I managed to be silly and upload the original document; sorry about that. (Please delete it; it contains some things that should not be spread.) Here is a copy of the dummy document with embedded fonts. The template from above applies to this one.

Dummy image sample showing cut off.

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[FJCC]

Here is what I see.

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[floris v]

Works for me, but I don't have your decorative font. Maybe you have that problem because of the line spacing set to Fixed instead of Single (which works in most cases if you don't insert formulas and the like in the body text) and a font size for the drop cap that doesn't fit in that space. Remember that the actual height of a letter with a certain font size can differ per font. Play with those settings.

[Lupp]

I managed to be silly and upload the original document; ...
... (Please delete it; it contains some things that should not be spread.) ...

Edit your first post and delete the upload yourself replacing it with a respective note.

[CannedMan]

Works for me, but I don't have your decorative font. Maybe you have that problem because of the line spacing set to Fixed instead of Single (which works in most cases if you don't insert formulas and the like in the body text) and a font size for the drop cap that doesn't fit in that space. Remember that the actual height of a letter with a certain font size can differ per font. Play with those settings.

I checked that, but the fixed line height is set in the template, and as the image shows, it works perfectly well in the template. I tried changing to e.g. 1.15 lines line heigh, but that changed nothing as well:

Line height set to 1 line instead of a fixed set of points.

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Did the decorative font get included in the new document? I embedded the fonts in it. What boggles me, is that it works perfectly well in the template, but not in the ‘real’ file. And yes, when I use a different font, including the regular EB Garamonds (EB Garamond, EB Garamond Medium, SemiBold and ExtraBold), it also renders fine in the real file. How come then it works well in the template, but not when applied?

I managed to be silly and upload the original document; ...
... (Please delete it; it contains some things that should not be spread.) ...

Edit your first post and delete the upload yourself replacing it with a respective note.

I have now added the link to the correct document in the original post as well.

[RoryOF]

There is a report here, with some illustrations, of problems with EB Garamond Initials

https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions ... d-initials

Perhaps there may be some help in it.

[cwolan]

I usually write from templates. For this specific one, I have an initial using EB Garamond Initial. In the template, it renders perfectly fine; in the output file, however, it is cut off for some reason, apparently being rendered as a three-line sized letter cut to the (desired) two-line height. What could cause this?

It might be related to the value of a configuration parameter called DropCapPunctuation

Unpack the template file "Dummy template.ott" and open the internal file "settings.xml". The entry in question reads:

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<config:config-item config:name="DropCapPunctuation" config:type="boolean">false</config:config-item>

On the other hand, DropCapPunctuation stored in two other files ("Dømebrev.odt" and "Dummy letter.odt") is set to true.

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<config:config-item config:name="DropCapPunctuation" config:type="boolean">true</config:config-item>

AFAICT DropCapPunctuation was introduced in LO version 7.5 [1].

I did a test with 7.6.7.2 :
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There is one LO Bugzilla report on similar (?) issue [2].

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Ref:

[1]
LO Gerrit: 138356 (tdf#150200 tdf#150438 sw, DOCX: fix drop cap dash, quotation etc.)

[2]
LO Bugzilla: Bug 160488 ("VIEWING - Characters extending below the baseline are cut off as drop caps")

[CannedMan]

That is highly informative. Thank you!

[CannedMan]

There is a report here, with some illustrations, of problems with EB Garamond Initials

https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions ... d-initials

Perhaps there may be some help in it.

That is highly informative. Thanks!

[ABRIDGED]
It might be related to the value of a configuration parameter called DropCapPunctuation

Unpack the template file "Dummy template.ott" and open the internal file "settings.xml". The entry in question reads:

Code: Select all

<config:config-item config:name="DropCapPunctuation" config:type="boolean">false</config:config-item>

On the other hand, DropCapPunctuation stored in two other files ("Dømebrev.odt" and "Dummy letter.odt") is set to true.

Code: Select all

<config:config-item config:name="DropCapPunctuation" config:type="boolean">true</config:config-item>

AFAICT DropCapPunctuation was introduced in LO version 7.5 [1].

I did a test with 7.6.7.2 :

This, presumably, is the closest LO editing gets to TeX. I have begun messing around in the XML files every now and then. Thanks for this detailed information; I will give it a try.

[RoryOF]

In my limited investigation I observe that EG Garamond Initials only cover a limited number of capitals. For information, have you discovered a full set of capitals in that (or close) style?

[CannedMan]

In my limited investigation I observe that EG Garamond Initials only cover a limited number of capitals. For information, have you discovered a full set of capitals in that (or close) style?

A very belated reply: I unfortunately have not. The latest information on Google Fonts, is that it is updated on GitHub, and when browsing there, I get the following:

GitHub message about EB Garamond Initials repository

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When opening that page, it seems to me there is no info, but I have never taken the time to get to know GitHub, so I am probably missing something.

[DiGro]

You're right, they are not there.

They are here: https://github.com/georgd/EB-Garamond-I ... ree/master

Downloads
Type URL
Nightly build https://github.com/georgd/EB-Garamond/r ... ramond.zip
Releases https://bitbucket.org/georgd/eb-garamond/downloads/