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[Solved] Fill entire page with background image

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I tried to insert a blurred background image and write on top of that. It is very nice but when I adjust text margin I also adjust image margin. Is there any way the image can go from edge to edge and not be affected by the text margin settings?

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Re: Background Image

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Hi,

Try out LibreOffice. Menu Format | Page Style | Area :: import image. Style: Stretched.
Now the image is stretched to the paper margins and you may insert the text (text margins are still there).

Check Menu Format | Page Style | Page :: Background covers margins

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Re: Background Image

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RigPa wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:53 pm It is very nice but when I adjust text margin I also adjust image margin. Is there any way the image can go from edge to edge and not be affected by the text margin settings?
A search of the forum found this earlier discussion which may have ideas for you: Background image to margins

If this solved your problem please go to your first post use the Edit button and add [Solved] to the start of the subject field. Select the green checkmark icon at the same time.
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Re: Background Image

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Thanks. I tried using indents but it is a nightmare when having 300 pages with different left/right page setup.
MrProgrammer wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:11 pm
RigPa wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:53 pm It is very nice but when I adjust text margin I also adjust image margin. Is there any way the image can go from edge to edge and not be affected by the text margin settings?
Background image to margins

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Re: Background Image

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Can't make that work.

I import as described but when adjusting the margin, it also adjusts the image background. What's more - when I try to set the margin back to zero LO can't do it and either it crashes, or I can back out and use ctrl z to 'reset' the margin to zero.

DUnno if I'm doing something wrong...

erbsenzahl wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:01 pm Hi,

Try out LibreOffice. Menu Format | Page Style | Area :: import image. Style: Stretched.
Now the image is stretched to the paper margins and you may insert the text (text margins are still there).

Check Menu Format | Page Style | Page :: Background covers margins

Cheers
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Re: Fill entire page with background image

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@RigPa
In your signature I can read ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.11. In my reply I recommended LibreOffice - why?
OpenOffice can have a full background image if the (text) margins are set to 0. Then you could simulate them by enlarging each padding (borders) to - say - 2 cm. But you have to set a border color. So the image is spread all over the page but you have some hairlines in white or another color (transparency is not possible).

LibreOffice is easier - see attached screenshot. But be aware (see @MrProgrammer's link) that this proceeding is not perfect if you want to change the background image. You don't need to alter any indents or paddings and can write on the background image. The background image will repeat on every page which is based on the same page style.

As a last opportunity you may insert an image into the page, anchor to paragraph or page, spread on the entire page and set (Wrap) into background. You will find out that this is probably the easiest way of a page background, but sometimes the cursor will select the image (inadvertently) and editing text may be cumbersome. If anchored to paragraph in header or footer the background image will repeat on all pages which are based on the same page style. (It works on OpenOffice and LibreOffice the same way.)

Now it's your choice! ;-)
 
 
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Re: Fill entire page with background image

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Thanks.

I still have this white margin issue though. If I adjust the margin (for left & right pages) I get white space as in my image as margin still affect image as well as text. I might not understand how Anchor works or wrap into background.
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Re: Fill entire page with background image

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I still have this white margin issue though. If I adjust the margin (for left & right pages) I get white space as in my image as margin still affect image as well as text. I might not understand how Anchor works or wrap into background.
Have you tried the LibreOffice? You can not achieve this task in the Apache OpenOffice.

I tried using indents but it is a nightmare when having 300 pages with different left/right page setup.
Use the native and international standard ODF file types and the Styles (Page styles in this case). Then you need modify the left and the right page styles once.
The .doc file format can not handle the Page Styles.
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Re: Fill entire page with background image

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RigPa wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:53 pm Is there any way the image can go from edge to edge and not be affected by the text margin settings?
erbsenzahl wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:01 pm You may insert an image into the page, anchor to paragraph or page, spread on the entire page and set (Wrap) into background.
That works well. Insert a frame in the header or the footer. In the frame's Type dialog, set the frame width/height to the width/height of your page. Set the anchor for the frame to Paragraph. Set the position as Horizontal=Left To=Entire page and Vertical=Top To=Entire page. In the Wrap dialog, use setting Through, set all the spacings to zero, and enable In Background. In the Background dialog, use As Graphic, browse to find your file. and set Type=Area. You probably want to uncheck Link so the image is stored in the document. The same idea was explained by keme (with an attachment) in the topic I linked for you six weeks ago.

Because the frame will make working with the text difficult, it's best to insert the frame and image as the final step in your editing. If you do need to edit the text after inserting the frame, just make the frame's width/height tiny so it stays out of the way in the top left corner, then restore those sizes later. You can quickly do this with a Frame Style.

In the attached document, the frame is in the header of the Default page style. Because the frame is in the header, it appears on every page using that page style. The title page with page style First Page, and the acknowledgements with page style Last Page, do not have the image because I did not insert a frame in the headers of those page styles. To view the settings of my frame, use View → Navigator then expand at Text Frames. Right-click Frame1 → Text Frame → Edit. To view page styles, use Format → Styles and Formatting and select the fourth icon at top. To view frame styles select the third icon.
Writer Guide: Chapter 6 Introduction to Styles
Writer Guide: Chapter 7 Working with Styles

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RigPa wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:28 pm I might not understand how Anchor works or wrap into background.
Read about those Writer features in Help → Index or in User Guides (PDF) or searching for topics about them in the Writer Forum.
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Zizi64 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:59 pm The .doc file format can not handle the Page Styles.
Right. The tecnhique may not work if RigPa saves the document in the damned DOC file format. Perhaps that Microsnot format does not even support full page images. But as demonstrated by my attachment, the technque does work in ODT format.

Zizi64 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:59 pm You can not achieve this task in the Apache OpenOffice.
I created the attachment with OpenOffice 4.1.7.


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Re: Fill entire page with background image

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You can not achieve this task in the Apache OpenOffice.
I created the attachment with OpenOffice 4.1.7.
Yes, I see it is possible to do by some tricks.
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