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[Solved] Replaced computer, all formulas produce Err:509

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:46 pm
by vaplec
Hi!
I finally got myself a new MacBook Air (2017), changed HD to larger and had El Capitán installed (as previously) MacOS X 10.11.6. I have been using OpenOffice for years and am very happy with it. I have made sure Mac would accept it on the new computer, and Writer works fine so far.

But Calc give my formulas an error 509 in all those columns in my book-keeping file!!!
What must I do? (I'm not terribly good at these techy things!)

Cheers!
Christine

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:12 pm
by Bidouille
Hello Christine,
Save our time, could you please post the formula?
Even better, upload the spreadsheet if it doesn't contain confidential information.

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:17 pm
by vaplec
The formula is simple (and no, can't upload confidential information)
=sum(E128-F128+D127)
=sum(W1:W14)

/Christine

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:19 pm
by Bidouille

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=sum(E128-F128+D127)
No sense, why use SUM?
Just enough with:

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=E128-F128+D127

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:27 pm
by vaplec
Same result, I'm afraid! Terribly frustrating. :-(

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:35 pm
by RoryOF
Start by checking your data types - turn on /View /Value Highlighting; text will show in black, formulae in green, numbers in blue.

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:43 pm
by vaplec
That's correct, but it doesn't perform

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:47 pm
by RoryOF
Can you open a new spreadsheet, and perform some simple arithmetic in it? That will help isolate the problem either to the specific spreadsheet or to the new OpenOffice installation.

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:48 pm
by vaplec
I've done a short testing sheet. Sometimes the cell is empty!

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:57 pm
by RoryOF
IN a16, b16, c16 change =a1:A14 TO =SUM(a1:a14) and similarly for B16, C16; all should then be OK. The error in A16 (etc) propagates to the lower cells.

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:04 pm
by vaplec
That is the way it was on the old laptop. I just checked, as it is still intact. On the test sheet, there is no difference when I change it back to SUM (or summa, in Swedish).
I did back-up and transferred all my files from the old to new new laptop. On the old one, it worked just fine...

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:08 pm
by RoryOF
In your sample file I surrounded the cells invoking the ranges (A1:A14 etc) with =SUM() and all was well.

Have you remembered to prefix the SUM (or SUMMA) with = (equals sign)?

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:11 pm
by vaplec
Yes, as is shown in my test sheet.

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:14 pm
by vaplec
Sorry, in the test sheet I had changed it to = only, as suggested. But when I do use SUM I click the Sigma sign and it turns out without the SUM! Why?
Should i update McOS? AOO available for Mac?

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:16 pm
by RoryOF
Attached is your sample file, with ranges modified to use SUM; if you locale is Swedish, you might need to change SUM to SUMMA.

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:18 pm
by vaplec
And when I open it, it looks just the same as before: Err:509...

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:20 pm
by vaplec
Should I perhaps delete and reinstall AOO????

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:30 pm
by RoryOF
Have you changed the SUM to SUMMA?

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:37 pm
by vaplec
Yes. I have tried various formulae:
=summa(E3:E15) and =SUM(E3:E15) When hitting the Sigma sign, it only comes out as = and the cell says Err:509
=E3:E15 When I hit the = sign, the cell is blank (only shows in the upper row, don't know what it's called)

So incomprehensible!

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:46 pm
by Bidouille
Strange that functions are in lowercase.
Provide a screenshot to get what you see.

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:48 pm
by vaplec
Here's what it looks like.

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:49 pm
by vaplec
Hi again,

As no-one seemed to have a clue as to what had happened, I deleted AOO and then reinstalled. Now it is working!
I also assume that the formula =SUM(A12:A18) is necessary when more than two cells are involved, but if the operation is simple it works with just =
My book-keeping file looks normal again! :D

So thanks for your efforts, at least I know where to turn for expert advice.

Cheers!
Christine

Re: Change of Mac, Calc doesn't work

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm
by RoryOF
Sum is best used when there is a contiguous range: =SUM(A1:A5) is clearer than =A1+A2+A3+A4+A5; besides, if typing a long sequence one can sometimes omit a term.