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Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:13 pm
by acknak
I get different results opening the files with AOO 3.4.1. The first two files give the same result (same as your middle example, 1899-OK). The third file gives the same result as your third sample.
I'm not sure I understand what the files are trying to show, but then the date conversions confuse me no end.
The base date gets applied on entry and then again on display, right? The weird thing is that the dates are stored in the ODF file as a human-readable ISO8601 date string, so the base date gets used again on writing the file and again on reading.
I played with this once, changing the base date while I was working on a file and it all seemed to work correctly--I just couldn't wrap my head around all the back-and-forth conversions.
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:02 pm
by eremmel
Just tested AOO 3.4.1 Windows (W7) and OOO 3.3.0 WinXP; both showx the issue: first document shows wrong dates. (Is it possible that linux-builds are OK?)
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:51 pm
by acknak
I can't imagine that anything about the date conversions should be system-dependent, but I suppose anything is possible.
Here's what I see:
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:20 pm
by Hagar Delest
Here is what I've on Ubuntu 12.10 with AOO 3.4.1:
- Dates.png (24.06 KiB) Viewed 2681 times
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:20 pm
by Villeroy
For some reason I do not understand, I suffer from the same problem by now.
The attached csv file always loads with null-date 1904-01-01 imported with Windows-1252 encoding, German locale, semicolon as field delimiter, no text delimiter and "special numbers" option.
Then I get the 1462 offset whenever I copy cells from this file to a regular ODS spreadsheet (based on 1899-12-30). This is no problem with Base (HSQL) which treats the sheet dates as true date values.
Why does that file load with a non-standard null-date? Plain text does not include any spreadsheet specific settings. I use to import very similar bank account files since years without stumbling upon this problem.
The problem must be within my profile. The file loads with 1899-12-30 dates when I open the same file as another user.
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:31 pm
by RoryOF
The dates are showing as 15/04/13 (today) when I load, Villeroy. It must be a profile problem.
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:04 pm
by Villeroy
RoryOF wrote:The dates are showing as 15/04/13 (today) when I load, Villeroy. It must be a profile problem.
Yes, in any case the correct date 15/04/13 is shown but the cell value in C2 and C3 is 39917 when Tools>Options>Calc>Calculation>Date is set to 1904-01-01. The date setting should be 1899-12-30 with cell value 41379. When you copy a date into a document with another null-date setting you get a date offset because the actual cell value is different.
I copy the 2 records with 15/04/13 (39917) into a regular Calc document and get 14/04/09.
Meanwhile I found registrymodifications.xcu being the culprit. When I reset this file only, CSV imports with default 1899-12-30 and the problem is gone.
More precisely:
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<item oor:path="/org.openoffice.Office.Calc/Calculate/Other/Date">
<prop oor:name="DD" oor:op="fuse"><value>1</value></prop>
</item><item oor:path="/org.openoffice.Office.Calc/Calculate/Other/Date">
<prop oor:name="MM" oor:op="fuse"><value>1</value></prop></item>
<item oor:path="/org.openoffice.Office.Calc/Calculate/Other/Date"><prop oor:name="YY" oor:op="fuse"><value>1904</value></prop></item>
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:58 pm
by acknak
Villeroy wrote:RoryOF wrote:... It must be a profile problem.
... Meanwhile I found registrymodifications.xcu being the culprit. ...
Why am I not surprised? I can't believe how many problems the profile causes.
Anyway, good catch! Maybe this will help get the problem fixed.
Do you have any idea how the setting got changed? Is this another "spontaneous mutation"?
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:00 pm
by Villeroy
My backup indicates that the bad change happened between the 9th and 10th of this month. Now I have to compare the 2 backup versions of my profile. This may take some time.
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:42 pm
by Villeroy
Apart from this, some binary temp files and registrymodification.xcu seem to be the only files that changed between the 2 backups.
I can not diff the registrymodification because most of it is in a single very long line.
Why does the presenter extension (./user/extensions/bundled/present*) modify its files every day? I never use that extension. This is scary.
This is the profile of 9th Apr. The files with time stamp "Apr 9" change every day.
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.openoffice.org/3/user_20130409$ ls -l extensions/bundled/present*
extensions/bundled/presentation-minimizer.oxt:
insgesamt 412
drwxr-xr-x 2 andreas andreas 4096 Apr 9 10:15 bitmaps
-r--r--r-- 1 andreas andreas 3944 Aug 13 2012 description.xml
drwxr-xr-x 2 andreas andreas 4096 Apr 9 10:15 help
drwxr-xr-x 2 andreas andreas 4096 Apr 9 10:15 META-INF
drwxr-xr-x 2 andreas andreas 4096 Apr 9 10:15 registration
drwxr-xr-x 4 andreas andreas 4096 Okt 27 19:21 registry
-r--r--r-- 1 andreas andreas 396608 Aug 13 2012 SunPresentationMinimizer.uno.so
extensions/bundled/presenter-screen.oxt:
insgesamt 1268
drwxr-xr-x 2 andreas andreas 4096 Apr 9 10:15 bitmaps
-r--r--r-- 1 andreas andreas 3749 Aug 13 2012 description.xml
drwxr-xr-x 22 andreas andreas 4096 Apr 9 10:15 help
drwxr-xr-x 2 andreas andreas 4096 Apr 9 10:15 META-INF
-r--r--r-- 1 andreas andreas 1272424 Aug 13 2012 PresenterScreen.uno.so
drwxrwxr-x 2 andreas andreas 4096 Apr 9 10:15 registration
drwxr-xr-x 4 andreas andreas 4096 Okt 27 19:21 registry
| Edit: A closer look reveals that the subdirectories are touched on every startup so the subdirectories get new time stamps but not the files therein. |
Re: Dates changing (was: Input date)
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:55 pm
by RoryOF
Not on my system, Villeroy, using AOO 3.4.1 (Presenter screen)