[Solved] Pica as measurement unit is recalculated to chains

CannedMan · Post by **CannedMan** » Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:22 pm

I prefer to work in picas, as it is a typographical unit which relates to everything else when typesetting. However, for most settings, LO (and as far as I can remember, AOO as well) changes this to ‘chains’ or ‘lines’ in most windows. Font size is of course displayed in points (as expected), but anywhere else where I would expect to see picas, this mysterious unit ‘chains’ (and sometimes ‘lines’) shows up. What is it and how can I get rid of it?

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: Picas swapped for chains and lines

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Bill · Post by **Bill** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:04 am

I don't see this in LO 6.3.6.2 or AOO 4.1.7. I do see it in LO 6.4.4.2. However, there may be a translation error in your version. The units probably should be "characters" and "lines", not "chains" and "lines". The English version of LO 6.4.4.2 shows "ch" and "line" on the Paragraph dialog. There is an option Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > General > Settings > "Enable char unit" that controls the units. When this option is disabled, the "ch" and "lines" units on the Paragraph dialog change back to "pc".

"Chain" is a unit used in land measurement. It is 66 feet.

CannedMan · Post by **CannedMan** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:53 pm

Bill wrote:I don't see this in LO 6.3.6.2 or AOO 4.1.7. I do see it in LO 6.4.4.2. However, there may be a translation error in your version. The units probably should be "characters" and "lines", not "chains" and "lines". The English version of LO 6.4.4.2 shows "ch" and "line" on the Paragraph dialog. There is an option Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > General > Settings > "Enable char unit" that controls the units. When this option is disabled, the "ch" and "lines" units on the Paragraph dialog change back to "pc".

Cheers, mate! That solved the issue; I’d have never thought of it.

Bill wrote:"Chain" is a unit used in land measurement. It is 66 feet.

Yeah, and 1 acre is 1 chain (22 yards) by 1 furlong (which is 10 chains = 220 yards). It makes sense from a practical point of view (but most people forget that that’s where those measurements came from).

CannedMan · Post by **CannedMan** » Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:11 pm

I do not know whether there have been any relevant changes made to the latest editions of Writer/LibreOffice, but this solution unfortunately no longer works.

cwolan · Post by **cwolan** » Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:55 pm

It seems to work with version 7.3.7.2

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Bill · Post by **Bill** » Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:55 pm

It's a bug related to Asian and CTL language settings. See Comment 9 in this bug:

Bug 101895 - Paragraph dialog units shown as "ch" and "lines" when "Enable char unit" is enabled by default

CannedMan · Post by **CannedMan** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:27 pm

@Bill I take it from the above that I will have to disable Asian support to get rid of the bug then.

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