[Solved] Impress master file problem

[tema_ac]

When one creates a Master file in Calibri font and using arrows as list markers, the text automatically changes on 2 layout pages.
The font changes to Arial and the arrow list marker changes to a bullet point.
In addition the font size changes to one that is larger than that used in the Master.

This happens only in the layout version:
“text centred” and one “text box”
and
“text centred” and “title text” and “text block centred”

and when one goes back to the other Layouts the font format is lost.

Can some one help?

[RoryOF]

Please upload a sample file (take out any personal data). Details on how to upload a file are at
[Forum] How to attach a document here

[acknak]

... This happens only in the layout version:
“text centred” and one “text box”
and
“text centred” and “title text” and “text block centred”

and when one goes back to the other Layouts the font format is lost. ...

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you're doing. Are you using a non-English version of OOo? The terms you're using don't match what I'm used to seeing in the English version.

If I change to the Master slide (View > Master > Slide Master) and change the fonts, I see the change in all the layouts except for a few: "Title Slide", "Centered Text", "Title only" and maybe more.

This happens where the layout uses a presentation style that is not available on the master slide: "Subtitle". If you open the Styles & Formatting window (Format > Styles & Formatting), and change the Subtitle style to Calibri, then those other layouts will also get the font setting.

The presentation styles are what Impress actually works from; the master slide is just another way to modify the styles.

The font setting seems stable for me; are you saving the presentation? What document format are you saving to?

Saving to any format other than OOo's native ODF format (.odp for presentations) carries some risk of losing formatting. If you're not saving as ODF, try that and see if you still have a problem.

[tema_ac]

I upload now a sample file where you can see it. Sorry using german version, don´t know what it spellt in english version...

It changes the font when you click right in layout the right first layout and the right third layout (where it goes in the middle).

EDIT.

THX @ acknak. The problem with the font is solved with your post! But now 2 problems left: the font size changes when you change the layouts. Another problem is that there comes a black bullet point when you change the layouts. Its ugly! . Can the bullet point be deleted or is it fixed in the layouts.

THX

[acknak]

Is this what you're looking at (click for full size)?

The font for the selected text starts as Calibri but changes to Arial when you select the layout shown (blue lines)?

(Sorry, I have to use the English terms )

If so, then look at the style highlighted in the Styles & Formatting window (pink line):
The texts "Test ..." have styles "Outline 1" and "Outline 2" when you first open your document, but when you change to the other layout, the text uses a different style: "Subtitle".

If you change the "Subtitle" style to use Calibri, then all the layouts will use that same font. The subtitle style is not accessible from the Master slide--you have to change it directly.

It's strange, but that's just the way Impress works.

[tema_ac]

Yes that was what i am looking for...

This works now but the other 2 problems are still the same...

[acknak]

What are the steps to see those problems with your sample file? I'm not sure where to look.

[tema_ac]

@acknak

you see it in your screenshot... The black bullet apears. Is there a way to get that bullet away? I have tried to change the standard bullet (with our own grafik file) but he does not save it

[acknak]

I think your sample has some serious problems. I can't tell you how to fix them because I don't really understand how Impress is supposed to work.

Try this:

Start a new presentation, then look at the master slide. If you click in the different outline levels, and follow in the "Styles & Formatting" window, You'll see that each outline level is controlled by a separate outline style: Level 1 = "Outline 1"; level 2 = "Outline 2", and so on.

If you open your sample file and do the same, you'll see that the top paragraph ("Klicken Sie ...") uses "Outline 1" but has no bullet; the next paragraph ("Zweite ...") uses style "Outline 6"; the next ("Dritte ...") uses "Outline 4", etc. All of the levels are set to the same size, indent and graphic bullet.

I just can't imagine what Impress is going to do with such a set up, so I started over with a clean presentation and made my own master slide following your settings, but having an outline & style structure that follows the default set up.

Try this one and see if it works better, or if maybe it can help you get a cleaner master slide set up.

Note: I have bullets set for the top level outline item. If you don't want the bullet, you can change that by either:
1) Press backspace when the cursor is at the start of an item--this makes an "unlabeled" list item without changing any styles.
2) Right-click and choose "Edit Style" then Customize > Level: 1, Numbering: None; OK
This changes the style, affecting all top-level items.

[tema_ac]

@acknak
thx for you very good support!

Still problems with Outline „Subtitle“ – Bulletpoints appear instead of arrows when text is centered. When the Bullet Point has been in once, alle other pages loose their arrows.

I used you file...

[acknak]

... Still problems with Outline „Subtitle“ – Bulletpoints appear instead of arrows when text is centered.

Sorry, I don't see the bullets for the "Subtitle" text.

When the Bullet Point has been in once, alle other pages loose their arrows. ...

Hmm ... I still don't see that, either.

I'm not sure what is the best way to get this straightened out.

I would say that--normally--you wouldn't be switching layouts. The "centered text" layout is just one arbitrary layout; you don't have to use it if you want centered text. You can always use the regular "Title, Content" layout and change the paragraph formatting to center aligned.

[tema_ac]

i say it in pictures. When you write in an normal layout with our bullet and you switch then to a center text layout a black bullet apear. Is this normal? A bug?

[RoryOF]

Check /Format /Bullets and Numbering; you wll see that is set to use the -> arrow.

[acknak]

i say it in pictures. When you write in an normal layout with our bullet and you switch then to a center text layout a black bullet apear. Is this normal? A bug?

I can't say if it's normal because I don't understand how or why Impress works the way it does.

But it is consistent, I think. Follow the style of the text before and after you change layouts. I expect you'll se that it changes from "Outline 1" in the beginning, to "Subtitle" in the center layout. The "Subtitle" style has different settings for the bullets so you see different bullets there. If you switch back to the previous layout, the text should go back to the original formatting and custom arrow bullets.

Let me say it again: switching layouts like this is not the normal case. Normally, you just choose a layout and then set up your slide, never changing the layout after that. So the strange behavior that happens when you change layouts is not something to worry about too much, in my opinion.

[tema_ac]

thx for all you help. I think it is now nearly a perfect slide