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[Solved] Help with Outline numbering

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H have a document in which outline numbering linked to paragraph style has been fine upto this point. Navigator will move things etc and renumber properly. However all of a sudden today when I format a line as a heading it numbers it form 1 as if none of the other numbering exists. I cant get it to fall back into the existing numbering scheme.

The paragraph 1.1.0 under 2.2 showns the problem in the attached file. However it is happening anywhere where I now add outline formating in the document.

Help would be really appreciated.

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Please read the Survival guide for the forum first. People can often only help you if you tell what version of OOo and what OS you use - many even have that information in their signature, for everyone to see. Some problems only occur on one OS, so such information is really important.
I remember seeing a thread about a similar problem = http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic ... ist+styles.
There may be more. Hope this helps.
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Hi Floris,
Thanks for the advice. Ive edited my signature. The linked thread was very useful.. I have been able to force the issue by telling it the correct number through tool>outlinenumbering whilst on the troublesome paragraph. ALthough it seems as if I will need to do this with all new headings as they still come up wrong when first entered. I will continue experimenting, but I do find this very strange especially when the navigator seems to understand properly.
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How are your heading styles formatted? You should not have any automated numbering in it, as that can override the numbering in Tools -> Outline numbering. It always helps if you describe in much detail what you do. (For instance: I first type the text, then apply the Heading 2 style, or I first hit Enter, then apply the Heading 2 style, then type the heading text) - that kind of detail can sometimes help. Also carefully check what kind of formatting you applied - and include that information.
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Re: Help with Outline numbering.. please!

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Floris, thanks for your support. I have followed the guidance offered in the other thread from Hagar de l'Est. Namely turning off outline, removing all number manually by clicking on each numbered heading and sub-heading and then turning outline back on. All is now sorted and back as it should be. I will hope to not need to do this again, and will watch to see if I spot the cause.

I believe Hagar de l'Est has logged this as a bug. Not a desirable feature at all, but at least recoverable!

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HowardC wrote:I believe Hagar de l'Est has logged this as a bug. Not a desirable feature at all, but at least recoverable!
No, I haven't because it uses to work fine. Could give us some details about your file ? Does it come from a .doc file ? Have you once used the Numbering button in the toolbar to set the heading numbering ?
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Hi, thanks for the info re-how to sort this out. The file was originally word file a long time ago. Most headings have been changed since, however only recently did the problem occur. I have probably used the menu button to add numbering in the past as I got to grips with OOo, this is not something I will do again. If your interested I have copies of the file before I fixed it yesterday I can always send you a copy to look at and see if you can spot where the issue arose. In the pic above you can see the faulty outline number below 2.2.

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HowardC wrote:The file was originally word file a long time ago.
That's what I was wondering. I've seen that issue with MS Word documents, it happens sometimes. Perhaps due to the fact that they've been created with an old version of MS Office.
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Hagar de l'Est wrote:That's what I was wondering. I've seen that issue with MS Word documents, it happens sometimes. Perhaps due to the fact that they've been created with an old version of MS Office.
Any Word-originated document stands a strong chance of carrying direct formatting for the same reason as in Writer. People don't understand the need to use styles, don't understand that direct formats are not the same as styles, and are never encouraged by the interface to use or to even be aware of the existence of styles. Rare is the Word document that does not contain direct formatting to cause problems in Writer.

I'm waiting for the day when it's easier to clean out all the WW8 paragraph, character and numbering styles and the Convert 1, Convert 2, etc. page styles that are created when opening a Word-generated document in Writer.
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But quite often, the import is fine. I don't know why but sometimes, a document doesn't behave like the others (perhaps because the OP did something special a long time ago that he doesn't remember?
I was thinking about that thread especially: headings in imported WORD doc don't appear in nav.
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