OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Issues with installing under all GNU/Linux Distributions
Post Reply
Maeve
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:50 pm

OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by Maeve »

(I'm new-ish to the forum; and yes, I've tried searching the forums first, & read the Survival Guide. Apologies if I get anything wrong here.)

I've an old Dell Inspiron 9400. OS is Lubuntu 14.04 (which a friend picked out, as he said it's a Ubuntu version that this good old clunker can handle.)
(Original OS that came with it is Windows XP, which is still functional, but I'm not using much.)

But I realize now that the "AbiWord" word processor isn't likely to be up to documents I need to work on:
like book manuscripts of 400+ pages, with some advanced formatting. (Including ebook master docs, heavily dependent on internal hyperlinks, styles, etc.)
Open Office Writer was recommended to me by Smashwords, as being fit to fulfill their ebook document file requirements.

So is there a particular version of OO / Writer that will be safe to use with this laptop, and won't ruin the formatting of a 400-page book?

(Could I get a newer computer, you ask? Perhaps sometime. But in financial downturn, this computer is a gift & only one available to me at the minute. Work that I need it for is urgent.)
Thanks so much for looking over this question. Hope I said everything alright.
M a e v e
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Linux x86 install deb en-US.tar.gz
Install on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
User avatar
Villeroy
Volunteer
Posts: 31269
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:35 am
Location: Germany

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by Villeroy »

Open a terminal
Run

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get install libreoffice
Enter your password and you get an equivalent office suite "LibreOffice" automatically downloaded and installed.
LibreOffice is an offspring of OpenOffice.

What you might have installed already is AbiWord for writing and the Gnumeric spreadsheet which are both excellent, fast and light weight.

P.S. You know all this already from your own topic viewtopic.php?t=62509
Personally, I can not see any reason why one wants to install OpenOffice instead of LibreOffice on a Linux system. LibreOffice can do more. OpenOffice is no longer developed. The current OO version could be the last version.
If you are very new to your Linux system, you should abstain from installing anything that is not in the repositories.
Last edited by Villeroy on Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
Please, edit this topic's initial post and add "[Solved]" to the subject line if your problem has been solved.
Ubuntu 18.04 with LibreOffice 6.0, latest OpenOffice and LibreOffice
Maeve
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:50 pm

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by Maeve »

Thanks so much for your quick reply.
Yes, AbiWord is in with the Lubuntu package. I just had doubts if it's built for all those complex tasks. Or if it's just like a "Wordpad" sort of thing.
You think it's just as good as Open Office Writer / LibreOffice?
M a e v e
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Linux x86 install deb en-US.tar.gz
Install on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
User avatar
Villeroy
Volunteer
Posts: 31269
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:35 am
Location: Germany

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by Villeroy »

Please, edit this topic's initial post and add "[Solved]" to the subject line if your problem has been solved.
Ubuntu 18.04 with LibreOffice 6.0, latest OpenOffice and LibreOffice
jrkrideau
Volunteer
Posts: 3816
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:00 pm
Location: Kingston Ontario Canada

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by jrkrideau »

Maeve wrote: You think it's just as good as Open Office Writer / LibreOffice?
For what you want, probably not. However, I am basing my assessment on a fairly limited trial run of Abiword so I easily could be wrong. I would not recommend it for complicated academic publishing but I may well be wrong.

For normal business correspondence use or for writing fiction which does not require complicated formatting it looks excellent and it probably is more than adequate for most undergraduate university writing needs.

I don't think you would have any problem running AOO or LO on your computer. I have it installed on an Inspiron| 600 m that a friend gave me. I keep it as a backup and loaner and have not used it in about a year but IIRC AOO was working fine under both XP and Win7 (I think with 4.1.x AOO) so either AOO or LO should be fine with Lubuntu

I'd install the current version of LO using Villeroy's code and see what happens. It's not that hard to purge it and downgrade to an earlier version if required. And the price is right :)
LibreOffice 7.3.7. 2; Ubuntu 22.04
esperantisto
Volunteer
Posts: 578
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:31 am

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by esperantisto »

Maeve wrote:So is there a particular version of OO / Writer that will be safe to use with this laptop, and won't ruin the formatting of a 400-page book?
I would stick to Apache OpenOffice 4.2.0 for such a task.
AOO 4.2.0 (of 2015) / LO 7.x / Win 7 / openSUSE Linux Leap 15.4 (64-bit)
User avatar
RoryOF
Moderator
Posts: 34586
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:30 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by RoryOF »

Any change of word processor is liable to cause some change. major or minor as the case may be, in a preformatted text, so one must be prepared to rectify any such formatting changes after the change, but if one works using OO in .odt format they should then remain stable. I have used OpenOffice in its various editions for the past eight or so years, mostly running on Xubuntu, and it has handled all book projects I have given it, irrespective of size. My ad hoc test for a word processor is that it should be able to handle a text of the size of Tolstoy's "War and Peace", even if slowly.

I tried short experiments using AbiWord and Calligra but these were unable to handle to my satisfaction the preformatted texts I passed to them.
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.15 on Xubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
Maeve
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:50 pm

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by Maeve »

Thanks so much everybody for all these helpful replies.

Yes, Villeroy, I was in a similar dilemma 3 years ago... But on a different, much newer computer (since gone to its reward) & different ubuntu version. Actually ended up installing OO on the Windows7 side. Learned a good deal since, thanks to you all. But that laptop is no more.

Hi Rory, ol Pooh Bear! and jrkrideau. Wow, yeh, lucky youse turned up. You know what I'm talkin about! I did give AbiWord a test run with the 400-pp doc & it crashed every time it tried to open it. Thanks for the observation, yes, changing word processors is liable to screw up formatting. The present doc I'm working on was created in Open Office. So it would be good to continue on that.
.
Clicked download AOO & the computer said "Open this file?" & I said OK. But hasn't done anything, & can't find it anywhere, in any folder. Where could it be hiding? (But perhaps that's a question for another thread.)
So I'm running the LO code to install that Villeroy provided above, & it seems to be installing away

I had a list of maddening bugs in LO which I never turned in to anyone. One of the worst is its tendency to insert page breaks at the end of every paragraph! (#@!!??//#) Without warning when a doc is re-opened (or printed.) AbiWord showing signs of the same bug. (What is it with that? Thought these things would have been worked out by now.)
esperantisto wrote:I would stick to Apache OpenOffice 4.2.0 for such a task.
Thanks esperantisto. But did you mean 4.1.0 ? I'm not seeing a 4.2.0
M a e v e
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Linux x86 install deb en-US.tar.gz
Install on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
Maeve
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:50 pm

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by Maeve »

LO installed OK! Hooray!
AOO downloaded in bits (tgz file in two parts.) Maybe try again.

I'll try to mark this question resolved when I see how I do with working on the doc.
Thanks so much
M a e v e
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Linux x86 install deb en-US.tar.gz
Install on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
User avatar
RoryOF
Moderator
Posts: 34586
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:30 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by RoryOF »

I don't run LibreOffice or Lubuntu. I use OpenOffice and Xubuntu on all my computers. There is a method of installing OO and LibreOffice alongside each other, which I have never tried and haven't looked up. When I wish to install OpenOffice, I find it easiest to remove all traces of LibreOffice first. This I do by starting a terminal and typing

Code: Select all

sudo apt purge libreoffice* 
note that the trailing * is important.

In this posting
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=83094#p385310
I give detailed instructions for installing OO on Lubuntu (or any DEB using linux)

The latest OO is 4.1.2 (4.1.3 with minor fixes is in the pipeline)
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.15 on Xubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
esperantisto
Volunteer
Posts: 578
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:31 am

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by esperantisto »

Maeve wrote: Thanks esperantisto. But did you mean 4.1.0 ? I'm not seeing a 4.2.0
I have Apache OpenOffice 4.2.0, that’s what the Help → About OpenOffice menu item says. Perhaps, it is a developer’s build, I don’t really remember as it has been quite a time since I had downloaded and installed it.
AOO 4.2.0 (of 2015) / LO 7.x / Win 7 / openSUSE Linux Leap 15.4 (64-bit)
User avatar
Zizi64
Volunteer
Posts: 11352
Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 7:55 am
Location: Budapest, Hungary

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by Zizi64 »

I have Apache OpenOffice 4.2.0, that’s what the Help → About OpenOffice menu item says.
There is NOT AOO 4.2.0 today. Can you upload a screenshot about the "About" informations of your software?

The latest available stable version is the 4.1.2:
AboutAOO412.png
Last edited by Zizi64 on Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:44 am, edited 2 times in total.
Tibor Kovacs, Hungary; LO7.5.8 /Win7-10 x64Prof.
PortableApps/winPenPack: LO3.3.0-7.6.2;AOO4.1.14
Please, edit the initial post in the topic: add the word [Solved] at the beginning of the subject line - if your problem has been solved.
User avatar
RoryOF
Moderator
Posts: 34586
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:30 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by RoryOF »

It is a developer's build. Current is OO 4.1.2, with 4.1.3 approaching RC1 stage; initial planning is in place for 4.2.0 but any builds of this are not recommended for production work.
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.15 on Xubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
esperantisto
Volunteer
Posts: 578
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:31 am

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by esperantisto »

Apache OpenOffice 4.2.0 exists!
Apache OpenOffice 4.2.0 exists!
Zizi64 wrote:There is NOT AOO 4.2.0 today. Can you upload a screenshot about the "About" informations of your software?
There is. See attached, doubting Zizi64 :-)
RoryOF wrote:…4.2.0 but any builds of this are not recommended for production work.
This is a mere precaution. The build that I use works just fine (as you can see, it’s quite old dating back to 2015), much better that any official release of LibreOffice (not to mention micro$oft’s bag of bugs).
AOO 4.2.0 (of 2015) / LO 7.x / Win 7 / openSUSE Linux Leap 15.4 (64-bit)
User avatar
Zizi64
Volunteer
Posts: 11352
Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 7:55 am
Location: Budapest, Hungary

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by Zizi64 »

There is not on the official download page:
AOOofficial_download_page.png
But there is a warning on the developer's page:
AOOofficial_download_page2.png
Tibor Kovacs, Hungary; LO7.5.8 /Win7-10 x64Prof.
PortableApps/winPenPack: LO3.3.0-7.6.2;AOO4.1.14
Please, edit the initial post in the topic: add the word [Solved] at the beginning of the subject line - if your problem has been solved.
Maeve
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:50 pm

Re: OpenOffice work on old computer? (Dell Inspiron 9400)

Post by Maeve »

Hi everybody. So grateful for all your very informative replies.

Even disagreements like "is there such a thing as 4.2.0?" has helped. Cuz it tells me more about how OO develops. And I feel a little less dumb for being unsure of some things!

Pardon I've not yet added "Solved" to this question. I haven't forgotten. But I cannot yet report with confidence whether OO is going to work on this dear old clunker.

As noted above, most recent attempt to download OO was not successful.

I'll try excellent advice re removing LO & installing OO.

No doubt you so kindly volunteer your assistance because you may realize that many people out there struggle with inadequate technical means: whether knowledge, experience, equipment... Also limited net access / time to work on problems when they come up.

Apologies if my process here seems a bit retarded. ... It is! Albeit this problem is a huge priority. Sometimes the problem is how to get to problem number one on the list!
M a e v e
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Linux x86 install deb en-US.tar.gz
Install on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
Post Reply