[Solved] Could a Linux User test something for me?

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[Solved] Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby djl47 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:37 am

I just started running Fedora 20 with Libre Office (The default) and the spell checker is partially broken. It underlines the misspelled word but when I right click for the hints they don't appear. Spell checker works fine in LO Write. Could someone running Open Office on a Linux system try out the spell checker in Calc?
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby esperantisto » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:50 am

I see no such problem with the Russian language.
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby RoryOF » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:29 pm

I have no problem on Xubuntu.
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby acknak » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:28 pm

I don't know what version of LibO comes with F20 but spellcheck in LibO 4.2.4.2 works correctly for me (F17).

The spellcheck configuration in OO (and LibO, I expect) is prone to break down rather spontaneously. I'd try a complete re-start of LibO, including any quickstarter process (log out and log back in is one way). If that doesn't help, then try a fresh settings profile: [Tutorial] The OOo user profile
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby djl47 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:39 pm

This happens on a freshly booted system. I'll try creating a new document in LO to see if there is some quirk of using a spreadsheet originally created in OO and extensively revised in AOO. I'll look at the profile as well but it's brand new.

Will LO and AOO coexist on the same Linux system?
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby esperantisto » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:51 pm

Both co-exist in my system, I can even launch both simultaneously.
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby acknak » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:21 pm

djl47 wrote:... Will LO and AOO coexist on the same Linux system?

I don't know the current situation, but there used to be a problem with nasty conflicts between the Fedora-packaged OO and the rpms provided by Sun/Oracle: whenever Fedora would release updated rpms, the update would remove pieces of OO installed from the outside source.

So even if there's no conflict in install or running the software, there may be conflicts in the packaging/update process.

I've taken to keeping all the installs completely separate, both in package management and file location. OO and LibO use different profile directories, so they don't step on each other.
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby djl47 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:59 am

I'm a noob with Linux. I took the HP Red Hat class several years ago and have only dabbled since then.
I followed the RPM instructions here: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Docume ... uide/Linux
Everything looks like it worked except the part highlighted below. Any thoughts on how to make these two coexist? If not how do I run AOO?
[root@localhost RPMS]# ls | grep kde
[root@localhost RPMS]# rpm -ivh *.rpm
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
Updating / installing...
1:openoffice-ure-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 2%]
2:openoffice-core01-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 5%]
3:openoffice-en-US-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 7%]
4:openoffice-impress-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 10%]
5:openoffice-en-US-base-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 12%]
6:openoffice-en-US-calc-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 15%]
7:openoffice-en-US-draw-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 17%]
8:openoffice-en-US-help-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 20%]
9:openoffice-en-US-impress-4.1.0-97################################# [ 22%]
10:openoffice-en-US-math-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 24%]
11:openoffice-en-US-res-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 27%]
12:openoffice-en-US-writer-4.1.0-976################################# [ 29%]
13:openoffice-base-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 32%]
14:openoffice-calc-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 34%]
15:openoffice-core02-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 37%]
16:openoffice-core03-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 39%]
17:openoffice-core04-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 41%]
18:openoffice-core05-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 44%]
19:openoffice-core06-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 46%]
20:openoffice-core07-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 49%]
21:openoffice-draw-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 51%]
22:openoffice-images-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 54%]
23:openoffice-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 56%]
24:openoffice-math-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 59%]
25:openoffice-writer-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 61%]
26:openoffice-brand-writer-4.1.0-976################################# [ 63%]
27:openoffice-brand-math-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 66%]
28:openoffice-brand-base-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 68%]
29:openoffice-brand-calc-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 71%]
30:openoffice-brand-draw-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 73%]
31:openoffice-brand-en-US-4.1.0-9764################################# [ 76%]
32:openoffice-brand-impress-4.1.0-97################################# [ 78%]
33:openoffice-ogltrans-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 80%]
34:openoffice-gnome-integration-4.1.################################# [ 83%]
35:openoffice-graphicfilter-4.1.0-97################################# [ 85%]
36:openoffice-javafilter-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 88%]
37:openoffice-onlineupdate-4.1.0-976################################# [ 90%]
38:openoffice-ooofonts-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 93%]
39:openoffice-ooolinguistic-4.1.0-97################################# [ 95%]
40:openoffice-pyuno-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [ 98%]
41:openoffice-xsltfilter-4.1.0-9764 ################################# [100%]
[root@localhost RPMS]# cd desktop-integration
[root@localhost desktop-integration]# ls
openoffice4.1-freedesktop-menus-4.1-9764.noarch.rpm
openoffice4.1-mandriva-menus-4.1-9764.noarch.rpm
openoffice4.1-redhat-menus-4.1-9764.noarch.rpm
openoffice4.1-suse-menus-4.1-9764.noarch.rpm
[root@localhost desktop-integration]# ^C
[root@localhost desktop-integration]# rpm -ivh openoffice4.1-redhat-menus-4.1-9764.noarch.rpm
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
file /usr/bin/soffice from install of openoffice4.1-redhat-menus-4.1-9764.noarch conflicts with file from package libreoffice-core-1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64

[root@localhost desktop-integration]# exit
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby RoryOF » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:11 am

When I ran into this (or similar) on Ubuntu I used Synaptic (you could use equivalent on RED Hat) to remove libreoffice-core, after which the OpenOffice install proceeded without problem. This removed LibreOffice entirely. If you wish to run both suites there is some other fix, but I don't know it.
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby esperantisto » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:27 am

I did not do anything special, just installed AOO and LO from RPMs obtained from the respective official sites. As for the desktop integration, I’ve installed *freedesktop-menus packages rather than distro-specific ones, no conflict whatsoever, only a minor glitch: the menus show that I still have AOO 4.0.1, but it’s 4.1 already (not sure if it relates somehow to the issue discussed and anyway I don’t care much). Just one guess/hint: AOO was installed first (well, upgraded, as it lived in my computer since the prehistorical ages of 2.x).
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby djl47 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:14 am

I tried installing the free desktop menus package and it gave me the same error. Thanks for the ideas.

Does this look like all of Libreoffice?
[root@localhost desktop-integration]# rpm -qa | grep libreoffice > LOlist.txt
[root@localhost desktop-integration]# cat LOlist.txt
libreoffice-writer-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64
libreoffice-ure-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64
libreoffice-graphicfilter-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64
libreoffice-core-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64
libreoffice-draw-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64
libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.noarch
libreoffice-pdfimport-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64
libreoffice-calc-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64
libreoffice-impress-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64
[root@localhost desktop-integration]#
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby RoryOF » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:19 am

If the error is preventing installation of desktop integration, it won't stop you setting up launchers to start LibO components or OO components directly.
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby djl47 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:35 am

RoryOF wrote:If the error is preventing installation of desktop integration, it won't stop you setting up launchers to start LibO components or OO components directly.
I'll have to learn how to do this. Is there some formal nomenclature that I can google?
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby RoryOF » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:41 am

I've done something similar once or twice, but I wouldn't attempt to guide someone in doing this because of my imperfect knowledge. Query <launcher> and <your distro> for more coherent information.
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby acknak » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:37 pm

djl47 wrote:... Everything looks like it worked except the part highlighted below. Any thoughts on how to make these two coexist? If not how do I run AOO?
...
[root@localhost desktop-integration]# rpm -ivh openoffice4.1-redhat-menus-4.1-9764.noarch.rpm
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
file /usr/bin/soffice from install of openoffice4.1-redhat-menus-4.1-9764.noarch conflicts with file from package libreoffice-core-1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64

[root@localhost desktop-integration]# exit

The problem arises because both want to install the same executable file: /usr/bin/soffice

This is a trivial problem but there's no way to "just ignore it" that I know of.

You can easily see what this actually is:
    $ file /usr/bin/soffice
    /usr/bin/soffice: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice'
So it's just a link to the actual openoffice/libreoffice program, which is installed in its own (different) location. The only conflict is that both want to install the exact same link to the program file.

The desktop integration stuff will just add new items without conflict but they probably expect to start OO/LO through that same link, /usr/bin/soffice, so even if you could get the menus installed, it wouldn't work; they would just launch /usr/bin/soffice, which would still point to OO.

I get around this through sheer laziness: I ignore all the desktop integration stuff and start AOO/LO from the command line--that doesn't care where they are. Since the command line keeps a history, you enter the full location once and after that it's never more than a few key strokes to recall the right command. Once OO/LO are started, the desktop integration is mostly unnecessary.

If you aren't comfortable doing that (using the command line) then you'll have to find some way to get the desktop integration package installed.
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Re: Could a Linux User test something for me?

Postby djl47 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:57 am

I was lazy in a different way
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[root@localhost desktop-integration]# yum -y remove libreoffice* libreoffice4
Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
No Match for argument: libreoffice4
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package libreoffice-calc.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20 will be erased
---> Package libreoffice-core.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20 will be erased
---> Package libreoffice-draw.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20 will be erased
---> Package libreoffice-graphicfilter.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20 will be erased
---> Package libreoffice-impress.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20 will be erased
---> Package libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts.noarch 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20 will be erased
---> Package libreoffice-pdfimport.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20 will be erased
---> Package libreoffice-ure.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20 will be erased
---> Package libreoffice-writer.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20 will be erased
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
updates/20/x86_64/metalink                                                               |  17 kB  00:00:00     
updates/20/x86_64                                                                        | 4.9 kB  00:00:00     
updates/20/x86_64/updateinfo                                                             | 1.2 MB  00:00:04     
updates/20/x86_64/primary_db                                                             |  10 MB  00:00:33     
updates/20/x86_64/pkgtags                                                                | 1.0 MB  00:00:03     

Dependencies Resolved

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Package                                Arch             Version                       Repository          Size
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Removing:
libreoffice-calc                       x86_64           1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20             @updates            27 M
libreoffice-core                       x86_64           1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20             @updates           236 M
libreoffice-draw                       x86_64           1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20             @updates           2.2 M
libreoffice-graphicfilter              x86_64           1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20             @updates           1.3 M
libreoffice-impress                    x86_64           1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20             @updates           4.9 M
libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts           noarch           1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20             @updates           624 k
libreoffice-pdfimport                  x86_64           1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20             @updates           630 k
libreoffice-ure                        x86_64           1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20             @updates           7.3 M
libreoffice-writer                     x86_64           1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20             @updates            16 M

Transaction Summary
================================================================================================================
Remove  9 Packages

Installed size: 295 M
Downloading packages:
Running transaction check
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded
Running transaction
Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.
  Erasing    : 1:libreoffice-calc-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                    1/9
  Erasing    : 1:libreoffice-impress-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                 2/9
  Erasing    : 1:libreoffice-writer-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                  3/9
  Erasing    : 1:libreoffice-draw-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                    4/9
  Erasing    : 1:libreoffice-pdfimport-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                               5/9
  Erasing    : 1:libreoffice-graphicfilter-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                           6/9
  Erasing    : 1:libreoffice-core-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                    7/9
  Erasing    : 1:libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.noarch                                        8/9
  Erasing    : 1:libreoffice-ure-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                     9/9
  Verifying  : 1:libreoffice-pdfimport-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                               1/9
  Verifying  : 1:libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.noarch                                        2/9
  Verifying  : 1:libreoffice-writer-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                  3/9
  Verifying  : 1:libreoffice-core-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                    4/9
  Verifying  : 1:libreoffice-impress-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                 5/9
  Verifying  : 1:libreoffice-ure-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                     6/9
  Verifying  : 1:libreoffice-draw-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                    7/9
  Verifying  : 1:libreoffice-calc-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                                    8/9
  Verifying  : 1:libreoffice-graphicfilter-4.2.4.2-15.fc20.x86_64                                           9/9

Removed:
  libreoffice-calc.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20           libreoffice-core.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20                 
  libreoffice-draw.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20           libreoffice-graphicfilter.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20       
  libreoffice-impress.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20        libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts.noarch 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20     
  libreoffice-pdfimport.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20      libreoffice-ure.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20                 
  libreoffice-writer.x86_64 1:4.2.4.2-15.fc20       

Complete!

The package that wouldn't install before installed without any further complaints. Now I have to get spell check working in AOO. The update didn't seem to work properly.

PS: AOO Spell check works now after an update and restarting AOO. Thanks for the help and support.
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