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[Solved] Dealing with PDf's in OO 4.1.6 on Win 10

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:52 pm
by DRBeck
Hey folks, I'm not exactly an OO expert, but I have been using it for years. I just installed OO 4.1.6 (from 4.1.5) on Win 10. I've done my diligence searching forums and looking for extensions... The consensus seems to be Writer has never been able to modify PDF files; I can't get a 7 y/o extension (newest I saw) to install to even view; and I would bet an appendage I used to have this ability in OO - as apparently many others seem to ask this same question, but I have to ask again, because if OO never had this ability I need to have a brain scan. I can't even view a PDF at this point w/o Adobe. I installed Adobe Reader DC, to view and save, but are y'all saying PDF's are so proprietary they can't be edited without paying Adobe? And while I'm here, The Adobe Cloud is ridiculous.

Thanks,
David Beck

Re: Dealing with PDf's in OO 4.1.6 on Win 10

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:03 pm
by John_Ha
See the Writer Tutorials for one on PDFs.

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Re: Dealing with PDf's in OO 4.1.6 on Win 10

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:08 pm
by RoryOF
The PDF import extension can be downloaded from
https://www.arielch.org/aoo/aoo-pdf-import/

When you have downloaded the correct version for your edition of OO, simply double click the .oxt file and it will install.

Note this will only permit small cosmetic changes be made to a PDF file - it is not suitable for major restructuring.

I cannot help with why you cannot view a PDF with Adobe Reader. However, there are other PDF readers and editors, both comercial and shareware: not using current Windows I cannot guide towards these.

One thought: as you are using Windows, Internet Explorer is notorious for silently renaming file types - perhaps it has renamed any .pdf files you have downloaded to some other type - perhaps .zip?

Re: Dealing with PDf's in OO 4.1.6 on Win 10

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:46 pm
by DRBeck
Thanks John and Rory. I did review the PDF tutorial. So... I guess the brain scan is in order. I am pretty sure I had dealt with PDF's in OO in the last year, but OK, I guess that solves some of it. I also read about the proprietary patents, but doesn't that severely limit the use of a doc format that [I thought] was open - it can hardly be called "portable" or "open" if you need Adobe software.

It's not an extension renaming issue and Adobe reader works fine. I don't have any desire to login to the Adobe Cloud!!! What about entering data in form fields in PDF documents? I also felt sure I had that capability through OO. No?

Rory, I will try that extension. I have no need for extensive editing, I just want to be able to fill out document fields. I know I have done this. Does the PDF have to be formatted with fillable form fields?

Re: Dealing with PDf's in OO 4.1.6 on Win 10

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:01 pm
by RoryOF
The PDF format is designed to be an output format, invariant across platforms. It is intended for document distribution, not for editing. I cannot answer about fillable form fields.

Re: Dealing with PDf's in OO 4.1.6 on Win 10

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:10 pm
by John_Ha
DRBeck wrote:I just want to be able to fill out document fields. I know I have done this. Does the PDF have to be formatted with fillable form fields?

Writer can create a text document with fillable fields - see Chapter 15 - Using Forms in Writer in the manual. Another user with AOO/LO can fill in the fields.

Writer can save a document with fillable fields as a PDF - see the options under File > Export as PDF.

Adobe Reader can open any PDF with fields and allows the user to add data to those fields.

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Re: Dealing with PDf's in OO 4.1.6 on Win 10

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:24 pm
by DRBeck
I guess I'll mark this solved... It doesn't make me feel any more sane. I'm not interested in editing PDF's, just filling them out as in HR docs, leases, etc..

Re: Dealing with PDf's in OO 4.1.6 on Win 10

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:40 pm
by John_Ha
DRBeck wrote: I'm not interested in editing PDF's, just filling them out as in HR docs, leases, etc..

Then use Adobe Reader.