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Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:12 pm

Am I getting old, or is the font size on the forum ridiculously small? Looks like 8pt to me. Since when has 8pt been a standard body text font on the Web? I have to zoom in to 150% in Opera to read the site. My default zoom is 120%.
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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby Phil » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:18 pm

To be honest - the font size is fine for me! 8-)
I'm using Firefox 2 with 100% text zoom on a 17" TFT screen @1280x1024.
For me it rather looks like 10pt. Maybe it is some Opera problem?

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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby huw » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:21 pm

There's a button at the top right - with an A and two arrows on it - that cycles through three different font sizes.
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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby Caracalla » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:23 pm

Opera (9.5 Beta) renders the site just fine here. Looks like 10p to me.
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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby huw » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:44 pm

The three sizes look to me like 8, 10, & 12pt. I think the default was 10pt, but I set mine to the smallest as soon as I started using this forum.

Edit: looking at the CSS the three are Large = 12px, Medium = 11px, & Normal = 10px
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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby DrewJensen » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:59 pm

The default fornt for for the forum is:
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font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
   color: #828282;
   background-color: #FFFFFF;
   font-size: 10px;


This topic did finally get me to do something I have been meaning to do and that was install Opera and here is a comparison - Opera 9.25, FireFox 3 beta 2
font_size_ff3_op9.png


Both browsers are set at 100% zoom - XP, 1280x1024 resolution. To be honest it does almost appear that the font in Opera is just a hair smaller or maybe lighter would be a better way to put it
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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:04 pm

I had changed my smallest font size back to the Opera default of 8px for some reason — I usually have it set on 12px and default zoom is 120%

I think the steps are too small — very little difference beween 10 and 12 px.

Try something like 8, 12, 16 px so that it really is noticable.

I am also using 1280 x 1024 on a 17" TFT monitor.

Don't confuse 8pt with 8px. They are not the same.
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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby DrewJensen » Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:19 pm

Expect the person just prior said they immediately set their size smaller...

Actually except for the initial setting the font size is never set explicitly like that - it is set as relative sizes from the baseline. In this case the baseline is 10px and then is sized relative to that.

Anyway - I am not going to be doing this tonight but most likely will be making changes over the weekend to the test forum setup and that is going to include changes to a few of the CSS files - I wouldn't mind trying to set some time when a few of us could try to be on-line and logged in together - the change to the CSS files is imediate - all you need do is refresh your browser - and we could try a few different settings and get a few opinions.

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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:37 pm

I check in most days. Just send us a PM when you're ready to start testing.
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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:24 am

No change here. The font button does nothing since I have minimum font size set to 12 pix.
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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby DrewJensen » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:51 am

I'm really not sure what to tell you - the font button works for me in FF and Opera under XP and FF 2, 3 and Konqurer under Ubuntu.
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Re: Font Size Too Small

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:24 am

Yes. The font button "works" for me too, but since it changes between 8, 10, and 12 pixels and I have my minimum font size set to 12 pixels, it doesn't do much.
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