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Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:53 pm
by Villeroy
The software is named after it's home on the web: http://openoffice.org
The name "Open Office" is claimed by a Dutch company which does not take any steps against scammers, but they sued Sun when Sun was going to publish this software as "Open Office".
"StarOffice" by Sun is more or less the same but including professional support and some non-free ingredients, thus StarOffice is not free neither.
http://go-oo.org is another free derivate of OpenOffice.org with some valid improvements.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:37 pm
by keme
MichaelOO wrote:As to giving my email address, I'm pretty sure I only gave it to register OO3 after downloading from the official site. Mind you, I might have given it to the 'download & support' site and forgotten I did so. Such things happen, especially when doing five things at once online.

Those things happen, undoubtedly.

Another cause may be a technique I've seen in use, a crude form of hijacking: When you leave a site, the main address (in the address field of your browser) stays at the site you think you left, but with a redirect to the other site you go to. The new page looks and behaves exactly like you expect (it is in fact exactly the page you asked for), but all traffic passes through the site you thought you left, so they can extract whatever they want. The rogue site seems to act as a proxy for your browser.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:05 pm
by MichaelOO
keme wrote:The rogue site seems to act as a proxy for your browser.


Now that's nasty! I had no idea such a thing could be done. Does Google's Chrome allow that too? I've been using it for a few days, and prefer it to Firefox, which I was using before. (Let's not even mention IE...)

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:15 pm
by TheGurkha
MichaelOO wrote:Does Google's Chrome allow that too?


Yes, AFAIK. (I use Chrome, IE and FF because I maintain a web site and need to check it with all of the common browsers.) The point is that the browser doesn't know.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:59 pm
by BlueDrache
The referring page hijack can be demonstrated easily by viewing this (harmless(?)) page: http://bacolicio.us/

Either way, I also have a website to add to the list of complaints:

http://suite-org.com/index.asp

Found it in a "sponsored link" on my gmail.com in-box

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:03 pm
by jorcam
I think I've been swindled by the site : "http://suite-org.com/", last week.
I was looking for Openoffice home page and was redirected to this site and
I payed for a version of Open Office 3.0.
I wonder 2 things: If there is some resources to suite them, or to report them to an authority or so.
The other cuestion is if my credit card informacion can be in risk.
Thanks for any information
Jorcam

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:05 pm
by TheGurkha
No, I suspect there is little you can do. When you read their small print it'll probably turn out to be the case that you haven't paid for OOo, you've paid to join their site, or paid to get support etc.

Only thing is to put it down to experience, and in the future only ever get your OOo downloads from OpenOffice.org.

As for your credit card details, I'd say it's impossible to predict.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:21 am
by Cambirder
Your best bet is to speak to your credit card company, they may be willing to do a charge back for you.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:23 am
by RoyFeni
I've been using computers for a long time (my first was a Commodore 64!) I've been online since BEFORE the Internet. (Remember 'bulletin boards'?) I've seen it all. I always pitied the fools who fell for scams and phishing emails and such. But the other day I willingly paid over $44 for Open Office, even though I knew it was free! "Maybe this support and 'extra features' are worth it," I thought.

Moral of the story: Never impulse shop online after taking your sleeping pill.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:01 am
by File077
I don't know if this has been done, and don't care enough, nor is it my place to do so, however this guy is an idiot.

His server is here in the US, all someone has to do is call his local police, and report credit card fraud.

And his but goes to jail. The whois returned plenty of info including:

network:Created:091103
network:City:South Bend
network:State:Indiana
network:Country-Code:US

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:51 pm
by floris v
The Dutch OOo community forum got a question about an e mail from one "Mike Robertson, Dart Connect Group, Altoona, USA" plugging updates for "OfficeSuite", including a logo with two flying birds. I couldn't find all of those data together in a Google search, but a search for just officesuite, graphics yielded this link: cronytv.com/128-Office-Suite-Download.olpo (apparently an Australian affair).
I wonder if the OOo community can take steps against the owners of that website for using that logo.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:47 am
by /a3
Interesting. Look at the phone number:
+88-01711264368

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... ling_codes

+880 is Bangladesh, probably a call centre. However, they do have an ABN: 54 535 314 298. I'm sure if Oracle/Apache (or whoever owns the trademark these days) wanted to complain, it wouldn't be too difficult.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:48 am
by ganderous
I use Outlook Express for email with Windows XP Pro. I sometimes get messages that I suspect are scams but never open them before finding out where the email came from. I use WhatIsMyIPAddress.com. Without opening the email in question, right click on the email title which take you to "properties." From there click on "details" and then "message source." Message source can be expanded to full page. Copy the information, not including the actual email body (which you can read without opening the computer up to a virus, etc.), to the IP address program. Run the program and it will show you all the email addresses and email names associated with the email. It will also give you the location the email was sent from--like Thailand, Nigeria, etc. If the email looks suspicious, don't open the email but add it to you "blocked senders list." I have Outlook Express set up to delete all the emails in the "deleted" folder (where the blocked senders list sends the email) when I exit the program. Beware and take care. Charlie

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:14 am
by ilmkidunya12
There are many website that providing th facility how can we aware about that

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:25 am
by RoryOF
Forum policy is that one should only download from www.openoffice.org or as redirected by its load-sharing. Ditto for LibreOffice, use www.libreoffice.org.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:36 pm
by Galvin
This is very bad think i am also receiving this type of fraud email mostly like you have won million by the Email Service providers or something else.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:41 am
by kingfisher
AFAIK, only the mailing lists and issues site and you will be thanked for your trouble by having your name and email address advertised on the internet.

The dev mailing list is probably the most likely place to report it. Whether anything will be done remains to be seen.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:10 pm
by njefferson
I am new to the forums and got to read this. I must express my sincere request to the members concerned with the monitoring of the project to take some action, such as filing a complaint or making this thread a sticky.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:11 am
by Hagar Delest
This topic is already a sticky since a long time. From almost the beginning in fact.
That's part of the opensource system, I doubt we can do much against this.
Users should also learn what are the traps on the internet. New technologies require new behaviors and new reflex. They can't be assisted everytime they are on the net. When you go in a low cost country and buy a forged luxury good, you do know what you do because there are hints about this. Same on the net.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:08 pm
by hardNOTsoft
Hagar Delest wrote:This topic is already a sticky since a long time. From almost the beginning in fact.
That's part of the opensource system, I doubt we can do much against this.
Users should also learn what are the traps on the internet. New technologies require new behaviors and new reflex. They can't be assisted everytime they are on the net. When you go in a low cost country and buy a forged luxury good, you do know what you do because there are hints about this. Same on the net.


What we CAN do is report the sites to the hosting and domain providers, found via WHOIS.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:12 pm
by Hagar Delest
Yes you can. Use the dev mailing list for that.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:26 pm
by kawa1111
RoyFeni wrote:Moral of the story: Never impulse shop online after taking your sleeping pill.

Great!!! :lol:

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:03 am
by jameshacker
i also got this mail.... two three months back.... :roll:

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 11:21 am
by Whatsisname
A basic tenet with any offer is to disregard the means of communication that it is offered through and search for the organisation that the offer is about yourself, that way you cut out the channel through which an offer is made and hopefully minimize any abuse. It's a case of you go and find what you want and cut out the middle man, who in these cases are the abusers, basically ignore cold callers and do your own research.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:02 am
by jeffl
Should we have a black list here so when people search for the name, they will see the message from here.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:55 am
by adriansmith
OMG what is going on I got the same Email what to do now?

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:24 pm
by RoryOF

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:27 am
by dparul000
Note that some charge a small fee for a CD-ROM with sometimes additional material like extensions, ... it can be useful for people without fast internet access.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:41 am
by Isobel22
Actually there's nothing to be done. You have done what could be done. You have warned us about this scam. Thanks for that.

Re: Fake Download Open Office 2009 - Credit Card Fraud

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:43 pm
by kerrylowes
You can download the genuine one from the official website http://www.openoffice.org/download and it does not ask for any payments to be made. :super: