Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:No. It's not possible. I'm always surprised when people ask this, but it is not an unusual question. If you try a search for PDF you may find several thrreads.
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As already mentioned in my comment regarding the initial blog entry, it won't be an option for us to import the PDF content into a Writer document containing floating text and as such a floating layout. So, we decided to write a filter that imports the PDF content as OOo Draw/Impress document.
With this solution, we'll have the full benefit of a page orientated, fixed layout. All graphical elements will be at fixed positions given in the PDF file and text portions will be combined as most as possible to be anchored in text shapes, ensuring that text portions preserve their exactly given position, but are still editable by the user.
The challenge with this solution is 'just' to find the most common bounding box for text portions that can be grouped together in one text shape. But this is nothing compared to the 'impossible' and life time task of reconstructing/guessing the whole layout of the original document the PDF document was created from. As you know, PDF files don't contain such structuring information in general, beside some tagged PDF files, on which we can't rely.
What a wasting of human effort! Use right the original document which was employed to create the pdf initially. It is like translating from one language to another, then behind still. You can never be sure that the translation postpones will be 100% precis. If you want to be sure, you need the original.
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:What a waste of human effort!
DDRdictions wrote:It is actually possible to both open and edit PDFs in Open Office. I have done this before using an add-on (a plugin, macro, or extension, I forget which it was) that I came across sometime last year. I wish I could remember the page it was on, as I had to reformat recently and neglected to backup that add-on. There were two versions: Windows and Linux. I remember that very well because I downloaded the Linux file and was unable to set it up, I have XP. I wish I could be of more help, but unfortunately I've had no luck finding that web page.
Villeroy wrote:Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:What a waste of human effort!
This is quite often the case when the developers try to follow what thousands of users cry out persistently.
cajunlibra wrote:many organizations make forms available online as PDFs only. In order to fill out the form, one must print then handwrite information.
cajunlibra wrote:Regarding not understanding why someone would want to edit a PDF, with recommendations to just obtain the original and edit that. Well, many organizations make forms available online as PDFs only. In order to fill out the form, one must print then handwrite information. It would be much neater and cleaner to be able to fill out the form digitally. This is why one may want to edit PDF files. Access to the original file is not an option in most cases. Retyping the form is also out of the question. Adobe Acrobat is expensive. I have found programs under linux that allow editing although it's a tedious task. Some pdf files made with Acrobat allow the user to edit the file's field but not save the file in that format.
I hope that my argument is justified as valid.
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:What a waste of human effort! Just use the original document that was used to create the PDF in the first place. It is like translating from one language to another, then back again. You can never be sure that the back translation will be 100% accurate. If you want to be sure, you need the original.
OifHunter wrote:Its a good use of human effort to give users what they want. Instead of forcing upon them things they don't want. I want more of the people in the first group - hurrah for them.
OifHunter wrote:Its a good use of human effort to give users what they want.
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:Improve PDF output to support OpenType Postscript fonts and PDF/X-1a before even thinking about PDF import.
Dave wrote:Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:Improve PDF output to support OpenType Postscript fonts and PDF/X-1a before even thinking about PDF import.
+1. However, I'd add NEVER think about PDF import. Why bother reinventing the wheel? With today's improved hardware/software, cheaper prices, multitasking is a breeze. A good workman has a toolbox full of tools, not just one Swiss army knife. There is, particularly, some absolutely excellent free PDF reader software other than Adobe, and some quite reasonably priced shareware for editing. "I cried because I had no shoes..."
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