TheGurkha wrote:Hi and welcome to the forums.
We encourage users to search before posting. What you want is easily achieved.
See this tutorial [Tutorial] Page numbering.
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Theparagraph wrote: Having parts without numbering
As said above, the page number is linked to the page style. Therefore, if you want parts with numbering and some without, you need different page styles.
Restarting a page number
Never use the Offset feature you can see in the page number field dialog! The ToC is based on the real page numbering, it doesn't take into account the offset feature. Moreover, your last page won't have any numbering if the correction is positive.
* Go to the first paragraph of the page to be renumbered, right click and select Paragraph.
* Go to the Text Flow tab, in the Breaks section, adjust the page number.
TheGurkha wrote:No.
You have to use different page styles. The page style dictyates what happens on each page according to headers, footers, numbering etc.
Use teh default Front Page style for the front page or define your own. Tehn end that page with Insert > Manual Break, select Page Break and then choose the next page style to use from the drop down: either the ready-supplied Default or your own pre-defined style.
You can have all sorts of different page styles defined and used throughout a document, with different attributes:
Front Page (no numbering)
Contents (i, ii, iii ...)
Standard Body text (1, 2, 3 ......)
The only page styles I see are "None" "Default" "Envelope" "First page" "HTM" "Index" "Left page" and "Right page"TheGurkha wrote:No.
You have to use different page styles. The page style dictyates what happens on each page according to headers, footers, numbering etc.
Use the default Front Page style for the front page or define your own. Then end that page with Insert > Manual Break, select Page Break and then choose the next page style to use from the drop down: either the ready-supplied Default
TheGurkha wrote:or your own pre-defined style.
You can have all sorts of different page styles defined and used throughout a document, with different attributes:
Front Page (no numbering)
Contents (i, ii, iii ...)
Standard Body text (1, 2, 3 ......)
TheGurkha wrote:You create your own styles in the F11 Style window. Once you have then you can pick them from the Insert manual break drop down menu you mentioned.
Sorry, I was using Front Page instead of First Page, my mistake.
Glad you got it sorted anyway.
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TheGurkha wrote:See my example document.
Cover page with no numbers.
Front material pages (contents and preface etc) roman numerals starting at i, ii, etc
Then main book pages starting at 1, 2 etc.
Note the use of the page styles. In the F11 sylist, right-click a style, such as Contents and choose modify to see the settings for that style.
TheGurkha wrote: In the F11 sylist, right-click a style, such as Contents and choose modify to see the settings for that style.
tom11 wrote:TheGurkha wrote:You create your own styles in the F11 Style window. Once you have then you can pick them from the Insert manual break drop down menu you mentioned.
Sorry, I was using Front Page instead of First Page, my mistake.
Glad you got it sorted anyway.
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Sorry haven't grasped how to create my own styles in F11 at all, or what styles I would put in there even if I could.
TheGurkha wrote:Glad you got it sorted.
... if there is a way to seal a page against losing it's Break, that would be ideal.
TheGurkha wrote:Right, here it comes.
Start with a blank document. Go to View and select the Text Boundaries option.
In the status bar it will say Page 1/1 and Default. That 'default' means you are using the default page style.
The Page Style defines whether headers and footers are on, the format of the page numbers, and a whole, whole lot more. For the purposes of this exercise we can ignore almost all of the other settings.
By 'telling' the different Page Styles what we want from them, and then 'telling' the document which Page Style to apply to which pages, we get the end result we desire.
In the blank Document, press F11 so that the Style and Formatting window opens (this is typically called the Stylist). I usually find it most convenient to dock this to the right side of the screen.
Hover the mouse over the 4th from left icon. The tooltip says 'Page Styles'. Click this icon. You'll see a short list of pre-defined Page styles.
We're going to
Use First Page style for the front cover
Define a style called Front Material for the preface, contents and so on
Define a style called Body for the body of the document.
To define our new Front Material style:
Right click in the Stylist and select New... from the menu
The Page Style dialog appears. Type 'Front Material' in the Name field
Pick 'Front Material' from the Next Style drop down
Click the Page Tab.
From the Format tab select i, ii, iii, …
Click the Header Tab, and select the 'Header On' check box.
Click OK.
The Front Material page style now appears in the Stylist list.
To define our new Body style:
Right click in the Stylist and select New... from the menu
The Page Style dialog appears. Type 'Body' in the Name field
Pick 'Body' from the Next Style drop down
Click the Page Tab.
From the Format tab select 1, 2, 3, …
Click the Header Tab, and select the 'Header On' check box.
Click OK.
The Front Material page style now appears in the Stylist list.
We now have our styles defined. Note that you can do this before you start entering content into the document like we are in this example, or later and apply them to the document, it doesn't matter.
To apply the styles:
So far we have a single page document, in the Default style.
Type 'Cover sheet' or something like that on the first page. Then click on the First Page style in the Stylist and then click the 6th icon in the Stylist, the Fill Format Mode 'paint pot'. The cursor changes to a paint pot. Click on the first page. Notice that the Default in the status bar now says First Page. Click on the Fill Format Mode icon again to turn off the fill mode. The cursor goes back to an arrow.
Go to Insert > Manual Break, a small dialog appears.
Select Page Break and then choose Front Material from the Style drop down menu.
Select the Change page number check box and set the page number to be 1.
Click OK.
You will have a new page.
Note that with the cursor in the front page the status bar says First Page and with the cursor on the second page the status bar says Front Material. Also note that the second page has a header but the cover page does not.
Click in the header of the Front Material page and go to Insert > Fields > Page Number. You will see that a page number appears, starting at page one, displayed in Roman lower case numerals: i. There will be no change to the front cover sheet.
Now that we are using the Front Material page style, each time the text you type moves onto a new page or you force a new page with Ctrl+Enter, we get a new Front Material style page. Hit Ctrl+Enter a few times. Each time you do so you will have a new page with a header and lower case Roman numeral page number. Do this a few times.
To tell the document that we are now entering the Body of the document, we insert a Page Break again, and this time set the Style to move to to be Body.
Go to Insert > Manual Break, a small dialog appears.
Select Page Break and then choose Body from the Style drop down menu.
Select the Change page number check box and set the page number to be 1 (or any other number, 4, 10, 28 ...).
Click OK.
You will have a new page.
Note that with the cursor in the new page the status bar says Body, with the cursor in the cover sheet the status bar reads First Page and with the cursor on the second page the status bar says Front Material.
Click in the header of the Body page and go to Insert > Fields > Page Number. You will see that a page number appears, starting at page one, displayed in regular numbers: 1.
Now that we are using the Body page style, each time the text you type moves onto a new page or you force a new page with Ctrl+Enter, we get a new Body style page. Hit Ctrl+Enter a few times. Each time you do so you will have a new page with a header and page number in 1, 2, 3 numerals.
Do this a few times to verify.
Now, the advantage of Styles is that at any time during the life of the document, if you go to the Stylist and right click ona Style you are using inthe document and select Modify, you can make a change and that change is applied to all pages of that style throughout the document. And the same with Paragrahy styles, Character styles and so on.
TheGurkha wrote:Right, here it comes.
Start with a blank document. Go to View and select the Text Boundaries option.
In the status bar it will say Page 1/1 and Default. That 'default' means you are using the default page style.
The Page Style defines whether headers and footers are on, the format of the page numbers, and a whole, whole lot more. For the purposes of this exercise we can ignore almost all of the other settings.
By 'telling' the different Page Styles what we want from them, and then 'telling' the document which Page Style to apply to which pages, we get the end result we desire.
In the blank Document, press F11 so that the Style and Formatting window opens (this is typically called the Stylist). I usually find it most convenient to dock this to the right side of the screen.
Hover the mouse over the 4th from left icon. The tooltip says 'Page Styles'. Click this icon. You'll see a short list of pre-defined Page styles.
We're going to
Use First Page style for the front cover
Define a style called Front Material for the preface, contents and so on
Define a style called Body for the body of the document.
To define our new Front Material style:
Right click in the Stylist and select New... from the menu
The Page Style dialog appears. Type 'Front Material' in the Name field
Pick 'Front Material' from the Next Style drop down
Click the Page Tab.
From the Format tab select i, ii, iii, …
Click the Header Tab, and select the 'Header On' check box.
Click OK.
The Front Material page style now appears in the Stylist list.
To define our new Body style:
Right click in the Stylist and select New... from the menu
The Page Style dialog appears. Type 'Body' in the Name field
Pick 'Body' from the Next Style drop down
Click the Page Tab.
From the Format tab select 1, 2, 3, …
Click the Header Tab, and select the 'Header On' check box.
Click OK.
The Front Material page style now appears in the Stylist list.
We now have our styles defined. Note that you can do this before you start entering content into the document like we are in this example, or later and apply them to the document, it doesn't matter.
To apply the styles:
So far we have a single page document, in the Default style.
Type 'Cover sheet' or something like that on the first page. Then click on the First Page style in the Stylist and then click the 6th icon in the Stylist, the Fill Format Mode 'paint pot'. The cursor changes to a paint pot. Click on the first page. Notice that the Default in the status bar now says First Page. Click on the Fill Format Mode icon again to turn off the fill mode. The cursor goes back to an arrow.
Go to Insert > Manual Break, a small dialog appears.
Select Page Break and then choose Front Material from the Style drop down menu.
Select the Change page number check box and set the page number to be 1.
Click OK.
You will have a new page.
Note that with the cursor in the front page the status bar says First Page and with the cursor on the second page the status bar says Front Material. Also note that the second page has a header but the cover page does not.
Click in the header of the Front Material page and go to Insert > Fields > Page Number. You will see that a page number appears, starting at page one, displayed in Roman lower case numerals: i. There will be no change to the front cover sheet.
Now that we are using the Front Material page style, each time the text you type moves onto a new page or you force a new page with Ctrl+Enter, we get a new Front Material style page. Hit Ctrl+Enter a few times. Each time you do so you will have a new page with a header and lower case Roman numeral page number. Do this a few times.
To tell the document that we are now entering the Body of the document, we insert a Page Break again, and this time set the Style to move to to be Body.
Go to Insert > Manual Break, a small dialog appears.
Select Page Break and then choose Body from the Style drop down menu.
Select the Change page number check box and set the page number to be 1 (or any other number, 4, 10, 28 ...).
Click OK.
You will have a new page.
Note that with the cursor in the new page the status bar says Body, with the cursor in the cover sheet the status bar reads First Page and with the cursor on the second page the status bar says Front Material.
Click in the header of the Body page and go to Insert > Fields > Page Number. You will see that a page number appears, starting at page one, displayed in regular numbers: 1.
Now that we are using the Body page style, each time the text you type moves onto a new page or you force a new page with Ctrl+Enter, we get a new Body style page. Hit Ctrl+Enter a few times. Each time you do so you will have a new page with a header and page number in 1, 2, 3 numerals.
Do this a few times to verify.
Now, the advantage of Styles is that at any time during the life of the document, if you go to the Stylist and right click ona Style you are using inthe document and select Modify, you can make a change and that change is applied to all pages of that style throughout the document. And the same with Paragrahy styles, Character styles and so on.
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